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1914  The First World War
Report by Shaun Griffiths - “The Daten World War One Project”
Originated 2000    Last reviewed June 2006

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INTRODUCTION
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Once again the rarity of the Datlen name has proved beneficial. Normally it would be a near impossible task trying to find the record of an un-named individual among the masses of military papers held at Kew in London and it would be a task that not even the most experienced researcher would attempt without knowing the regiment and regimental number of the soldier.  But with the Datlen name being so unique the search is made somewhat easier, even more so as the search is not for a specified individual but for all Datlen soldiers appearing in the World War One archives.

There are a number of WW1 research tools available for the public to search:-

THE COMMONWEALTH WAR GRAVES COMMISION.
This is a register of soldiers who died during the wars and can be found online at www.cwgc.org The soldiers name, rank, regiment and date of death will be listed and sometimes you can find the soldiers age and details of his next of kin.  There are two Datlen’s named in the CWGC registers, one died during WW1 and the other during WW2.

I also found a C. Dietlan, private 213844 who served with the 19th Btn, Canadian Infantry (Central Ontario Regt.). He died on Monday 28th May 1917 and is buried at Ecoivres Military Cemetery, Mont-St. Eloi, Pas de Calias, France.  I have not been able to identify this soldier.

MEDAL INDEX CARDS
The Army Medal Office at Droitwich in England maintained a card index of all soldiers who were awarded a campaign medal in WW1.  Information included on these records include Corps, rank and regimental number. There were 13 such records relating to the name Datlen.

SOLDIERS DOCUMENTS
The Public Record Office at Kew hold service records for soldiers who served during the Fist World War.  The records were originally kept so that the authorities could answer questions about pensions, claims for disability allowances, and queries about entitlements for medals.  During 1940 they were badly damaged in a bombing raid and about 60% of the records were totally destroyed.

The vast majority of the surviving records suffered badly from both fire and water damage. Known, naturally enough, as the Burnt Documents, they contain records for about 25-30% of the men who served in the British Army during the First World War. There is thus a one in three or one in four chance of finding a soldier's record.

Of the 13 Datlen soldiers listed in the Medal Index I have 5 corresponding service records and an additional 2 records for men who are not listed in the Medal Indexes. The surviving service records are likely to fall into one of the following categories

  • Soldiers who were serving prior to 1914 and whose service finished between 1914 and 1920
     
  • Soldiers who were serving prior to 1914 and who were medically discharged without seeing service overseas between 1914 and 1920
     
  • Soldiers who were serving prior to 1914 and were medically discharged having seen service overseas between 1914 and 1920
     
  • Soldiers who joined between 1914 and 1920 and who were medically discharged without seeing service overseas
     
  • Soldiers who joined between 1914 and 1920 and who were medically discharged having seen service overseas.
     

OTHER SOURCES
There are various other sources of military information such as War Diaries, Trench Maps, Regimental and Battalion Histories and Rolls of Honour, some of which I have requested in order to build a more complete picture of a soldier’s military career.

The amount of information provided in all of these sources varies greatly and I have tried to paste all the facts together as best I can to provide a summary of the soldier’s military career.  By far the most useful source is the Soldiers Service Records. Most show the result of extensive fire damage but what little information does remain provides interesting reading. Several of the records even describe the soldier’s physical appearance. From this information we can paint a mental picture of the soldier as we read about his experiences during WW1. Typically the Datlen soldier had brown eyes, brown hair and was not a tall chap, ranging in height from 5 foot 2 inches to 5 foot 9 inches, on average being under 5 foot 6 inches.

Two of the soldiers were relieved from military service on account that they sustained injury, two of the soldiers were relieved from military service on account of illness, while another was relieved from military service on account that he lied about his age. One soldier was relieved from military service on account that he was killed in action on the bloody battlefields of the Somme.

The postings which follow tell their story…
 

Datlen soldiers serving during Word War One

 

Name

Walter James Datlen

REPORT
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Regiment and Rank

Royal Engineers - Private 13425

Enlisted

22nd February 1904 at Canterbury

Medals Awarded

1914 Star
Clasp to 1941 Star
Roses Issued
3rd May 1920

Lineage

Son of Robert Elgar Datlen / Robert / Johannes

Notes

Discharged on 16th May 1916 due to illness

Name

William Arthur Datlen

REPORT
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Regiment and Rank

Royal Engineers - Corporal 611
Royal Engineers - Corporal 544018
Royal Engineers - Corporal 2200263

Enlisted

21st January 1909 at Dover

Medals Awarded

British War Medal

Lineage

Son of William Edward Datlen / Robert / Robert / Johannes

Notes

Discharged on 31st March 1920

Name

Frederick Adam Datlen

REPORT
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Regiment and Rank

Army Ordnance Corps - Private 5883

Enlisted

8th April 1915 at Woolwich

Medals Awarded

 

Lineage

Son of George Frederick Datlen / Adam / Johannes

Notes

Discharged on 15th June 1915 due to illness

Name

Reginald Edward Datlen

REPORT
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Regiment and Rank

East Kent Regiment - Private 3906

Enlisted

2nd October 1915 at Dover

Medals Awarded

 

Lineage

Son of William Edward Datlen / Robert / Robert / Johannes

Notes

Discharged on 8th July 1916 “having made a mis-statement of age on enlistment”, he was 15 years old

Name

George Edward Datlen

REPORT
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Regiment and Rank

2nd Royal Sussex Regiment - Lance Corporal G/9046

Enlisted

19th February 1916 at Maidstone

Medals Awarded

British War Medal
Victory Medal

Lineage

Son of Charles George Datlen / Robert / Robert / Johannes

Notes

Killed in action on 17th August 1916 aged 22 years

Name

Albert Datlen

REPORT
 Click for report

Regiment and Rank

2nd Northamtonshire Regiment - Private 49121

Enlisted

13th July 1917 at Canterbury

Medals Awarded

British War Medal
Victory Medal
Silver War Badge

Lineage

Son of Robert Elgar Datlen / Robert / Johannes

Notes

Discharged on 12th April 1919 due to injury, he received a bullet wound to his leg resulting in amputation

Name

William Evan Datlen

REPORT
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Regiment and Rank

7th Royal Sussex Regiment - Private G/19444

Enlisted

9th April 1917 at Whitehall

Medals Awarded

British War Medal
Victory Medal

Lineage

Son of William Thomas Datlen / Charles / Adam / Johannes

Notes

Discharged on 24th February 1919 due to injury, he received a bullet wound to his left arm

Name

Charles Edward Datlen

REPORT
 No report

Regiment and Rank

1st Royal West Kent Regiment - Private L/8054
Royal Scots Fusiliers - Private 54374

Enlisted

 

Medals Awarded

British War Medal
Victory Medal
1914 Star

Lineage

Son of Charles Datlen / Robert / Robert / Johannes

Notes

 

Name

Edwin Albert Datlen

REPORT
 No report

Regiment and Rank

Royal Field Artillery - Gunner 3628 & 697217
Royal Field Artillery - Gunner 697217
Royal Engineers - Gunner 367011

Enlisted

 

Medals Awarded

British War Medal
Victory Medal

Lineage

Son of Charles Datlen / Robert / Robert / Johannes

Notes

 

Name

Ernest S Datlen

REPORT
 No report

Regiment and Rank

9th Lancers - Corporal 2391
9th Lancers - Corporal L/2391

Enlisted

 

Medals Awarded

British War Medal
Victory Medal
1914 Star
Clasp to the 1914 Star

Lineage

Son of William Edward Datlen / Robert / Robert / Johannes

Notes

 

Name

Frederick W L Datlen

REPORT
No report 

Regiment and Rank

East Kent Regiment - Private G/2048
East Kent Regiment - Corporal G/2048

Enlisted

 

Medals Awarded

British War Medal
Victory Medal
1914-1915 Star

Lineage

Son of Frederick Datlen / Robert / Robert / Johannes

Notes

 

Name

Robert E Datlen

REPORT
 No report

Regiment and Rank

4th London Regiment - Private GS/80637
Royal Fusiliers - Private GS/80637

Enlisted

 

Medals Awarded

British War Medal
Victory Medal

Lineage

Unknown

Notes

Robert Elgar Datlen would have been too old at 76 in 1914?

Name

Robert T Datlen

REPORT
No report 

Regiment and Rank

24th London Regiment - Private G74315
The Queen’s Regiment - Private G/74315

Enlisted

 

Medals Awarded

British War Medal
Victory Medal

Lineage

Son of Frederick Datlen / Robert / Robert / Johannes

Notes

 

Name

Frederick J Datlen

REPORT
 No report

Regiment and Rank

Royal Garrison Artillery - 110231

Enlisted

 

Medals Awarded

British War Medal
Victory Medal

Lineage

Pos. Son of John Datlen / Adam / Johannes

Notes

 

Name

W Datlin

REPORT
 No report

Regiment and Rank

Royal West Kent Regiment - Private 1348
Essex Regiment - Private 54649
The Queen’s (Royal West Surrey) - Private D/16891

Enlisted

 

Medals Awarded

British War Medal
Victory Medal
1914-1915 Star

Lineage

Unknown

Notes

 

Name

Beatrice Datlin

Certificate of Disharge
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Regiment and Rank

Women’s Royal Air Force
Member (Immobile) - 17426
Aero Engine Fitter

Enlisted

2 October 1918 at London
Demobilised on 18 July 1919 at Dover

Medals Awarded

Unknown

Lineage

Dau of William / Edward Datlen / Robert / Robert / Johannes

Notes

Description: Height 5-4; Build Medium; Eyes Grey; Hair Dark Brown; Age 22

 

ForrestDaleWith very special thanks to Forrest Anderson of Forrestdale Research, Library and Military Research Service Specialising in Army Lists and Biographical Dictionaries for undertaking searches on my behalf at The Public Record Office in Kew, London and for providing his wealth of knowledge to my undertaking.  www.forrestdale.co.uk

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“I am now as free as an old horse, turned out to graze.”
William Evan Datlen
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